你認為天才應該是什麼樣子?
來看看渡邊雄太跟石川祐希,籃球跟排球界「天才」怎麼解讀天才這回事!
【🏐🏀渡邊雄太與石川祐希對談🏀🏐 (下)】
渡邊雄太與石川祐希去年同樣以職業球員身分展開在海外的挑戰,《NUMBER》邀請了兩位首次對談,上星期是上篇,這次是下篇。
(因為發現下篇有點短,所以先加插了以下部分,是關於二人初次接觸「世界」)
渡邊自小就懷著成為NBA球員的夢想,開始認真思考赴美則是在高校二年級的時候,當時渡邊帶領尽誠学園奪得全國大會(Winter Cup)亞軍而開始廣為人知,高校三年級仍在猶豫要不要赴美升學的渡邊,因為田臥勇太(首位在NBA出賽的日本籃球員)親自打電話遊說渡邊的爸爸,最後讓渡邊父子下定決心。
赴美後,渡邊在早上至中午上課,下午二時半開始練習,大約兩個小時後結束,渡邊又去到補習老師的家中進行複習和預習。吃了晚飯後,大約在晚上九時、十時再到體育館,進行約一小時至一小時半的投籃練習,十二點睡覺,這就是渡邊當時的生活作息時間表。在週末很多大學生會外出遊玩或參加派對,但渡邊都利用這些時間一個人練習英文,晚上也是進行投籃練習,渡邊說自己最初一、兩年非常拼命,大約花了三年時間才讓自己的英語能夠共通理解的程度。
至於排球界的石川,在大學一年級冬天以短期合約形式效力Serie A的Modena,到三、四年級時再以相同形式效力同一聯賽的Latina。從大學時代就到海外聯賽見識,這在排球界算是罕有。但原來石川當初對「世界」並沒有特別抱有意識。
「高校畢業時的心態,只是考慮將來能夠進入日本代表隊,在國內聯賽比賽便足夠。不過那時候有海外的球隊找我,那是我完全沒法想像的事。Modena是Serie A奪冠次數最多的強隊,那次獲得很寶貴的經驗。於是慢慢產生之後要成為球隊的首發,希望能夠在世界最頂級比賽裡有活躍表現的意志。」
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——你們各自牽引著籃球界、排球界,應該經常被人稱呼為「天才」吧,你們對「天才」有甚麼想法呢?
🏀渡邊:我認為有兩種類型的天才。一種是能夠很快吸收,並且可以立即做出來的人;另一種則是能夠一直努力下去的人。
🏐石川:我對「天才」的印象,就是不用練習也能夠把事情做好的人,所以我想實際上應該沒有太多這種人吧。
🏀渡邊:的確也可能是這樣呢。
——你們在甚麼時候會有「這就是(我的)才能吧」之類的感覺?
🏀渡邊:我想自己是能夠很快適應新環境的人。即使剛到美國的時候,完全不會英語,但卻從沒有思鄉病。到現在還覺得在美國生活比日本更加舒適(笑)。這方面某程度上也算是一種才能吧。
🏐石川:包括排球在內,我是能夠享受運動樂趣的人,即使是決定勝負的時候,也能夠享受在其中。雖然也不至於完全沒有壓力,但我是在那種情況下仍能感到(運動)樂趣的球員。
🏀渡邊:為了可以在世界最頂級賽事裡有活躍表現,我認為擁有能夠繼續努力的才能是非常重要的事。雖然很多人認為NBA是一個集合了很多「天才」的地方,但實際上NBA球員的練習量是非常厲害。單憑超群的身體能力能夠在NBA站穩陣腳的人其實只有很少,大部分球員都是憑努力爬上來,也是憑著不停的努力,才可以打出高水平的籃球。身處其中確實讓我感覺到如果沒有努力,就不能在這個環境下生存。
🏐石川:除了練習和努力,不論在任何情況、場面之下,不容許自己有所動搖,能夠維持穩定的表現,我認為這種心理狀態也是必須的。這方面NBA的頂尖球員,是以怎樣的動機、進行怎樣的練習,另外也想知道心理上又會怎樣去調整呢?
🏀渡邊:我的隊友Mike Conley雖然身高和身體能力在NBA裡並不算很優秀,但他經常是最先去練習的人。而上個賽季令我感到最大衝擊的球員,就是去年11月面對Milwaukee Bucks,效力該隊的Giannis Antetokounmpo。他除了在球場裡的表現很出色,球場外的態度也很值得欣賞。比賽後大家都會乘坐球隊專用飛機回去,多數球員會在機艙內睡覺,但他卻會立即重看自己的比賽,十分克己。像他這種已經是MVP級的球員,仍然做到這種程度,我覺得真的很厲害。剛才石川選手說「不容許自己有所動搖」,令我很有共鳴。當比賽時發現自己當天的狀態欠佳,就會變得很負面,也會失去信心吧,這時候有辦法讓自己改善嗎?
🏐石川:那樣的情況下真的很難修正呢。為了不讓自己有負面的情緒,最重要就是透過平時練習讓自己變得更有自信。假如陷入那種逆境,並不一定要想太多關於自己的事情,有時想得太多會跌入惡性循環裡。這時候可以看看其他選手在怎樣的狀況裡、希望球隊以怎樣的氣氛去比賽等等,總之去想一些關於球隊整體的事。
——在NBA與Serie A兩個最高峰舞台比賽,對兩位而言,與世界級選手對戰的意義是?
🏀渡邊:如果要做一件事,就要以最好、最高峰為目標。我自小已經很喜歡籃球,所以就懷著「希望成為NBA球員」這個夢想一直挑戰,如果只是訂立一個難度不高的目標,這樣並不有趣呢。挑戰一個比較高難度的目標,過程中可以獲得更多成長,動力也會更高。在籃球水平最強的國家裡比賽,使我得到很多收穫。
🏐石川:我只是單純地希望成為「第一」,這份心情比任何選手都要更強。而我說的也不只限於排球運動,能夠讓你展示實力的舞台並不是只有日本,還有整個世界。只要見識過世界最頂尖運動員的實力,自然就會想以世界第一為目標,如果不出去比賽,就無法達到那個水平了。
🏀渡邊:因為以前未曾有(日本籃球員)到美國成功的例子,所以在我去美國前受到很多人的反對。因此我要成為為「開拓者」、「先鋒」的意志變得更強,我相信只要我能夠取得成功,就可以(為日本籃球界)帶來未來。所以無論如何首先要在美國留下成績,在我成功後,相信就會有更多日本人來到NBA了。
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-兩位簡介-
🏀渡邊雄太:身高206cm,體重93kg,1994年10月13日在神奈川縣出生,在香川縣尽誠学園高校畢業後,到美國George Washington University升學。2018年7月與Memphis Grizzlies簽下「2 Way」合約,10月在NBA出賽,成為第二位在NBA出賽的日本人。
🏐石川祐希:身高191cm,體重84kg,1995年12月11日在愛知縣出生,於愛知縣的星城高校時代,帶領球隊連續兩年達成三冠。2014年升讀中央大學,同年入選日本排球代表。2018年大學畢業,宣佈自己成為職業排球運動員,加盟意大利Serie A的Siena,下一個賽季改投Padova。
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對談內容取自第979期《NUMBER》
圖片:NUMBER
--右方拿著🏀籃球的人是🏐排球運動員石川祐希,左方拿著🏐排球的人是🏀籃球運動員渡邊雄太😅
同時也有7部Youtube影片,追蹤數超過15萬的網紅pennyccw,也在其Youtube影片中提到,Allen Iverson scored nine of his game-high 29 points in the decisive fourth quarter to lead the Philadelphia 76ers to a 100-93 victory over the Vancou...
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#在傷病中折翼
今天NBA發生了一筆非常微小,很可能不會為聯盟版圖帶來任何影響的交易。那就是鵜鶘將Quincy Pondexter連同2018二輪籤賣到公牛,試圖舒緩薪資空間。
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至於公牛,拿到29歲的Q-Pon後他們很可能會選擇將他揮棄。而沒意外的話,過去兩季都因為傷勢無法上場的Q-Pon,應該會就這樣消失在聯盟。
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而遙想當年在2010年選秀時,雖然是小年,不過那年在小前鋒戰力上,首輪倒是有不少值得一賭的選擇。
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若根據NBADraft.net與DraftExpress兩大選秀網站的模擬選秀。首先打頭牌的無疑是兩大體能派小前鋒Wesley Johnson、Al-Farouq Aminu。
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再來中段依序還有技術派的Luke Babbitt、Gordon Hayward以及另一枚體能派的Paul George。
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至於在這幾人後面,應該就屬來自Washington的Quincy Pondexter了。
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當時已經大四的Q-Pon,儘管比起其他新秀年紀更大,但強勁的體能、6尺7吋身高搭配7尺臂展的良好身材,讓他儼然具備了被栽培的基礎價值。
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再來,大四賽季的Q-Pon是NCAA中最有效率的得分手之一。他有極佳的快攻終結能力,也在三年中磨練出了具水準的中距離急停能力...
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因此,好的身體條件,好的基礎技術,也讓Q-Pon成為了球探們眼中首輪末、二輪初的投資好選擇。
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最終,Q-Pon不意外的在首輪26順位被黃蜂(現在的鵜鶘)選走,不過隔年因為實在擠不出位置練Q-Pon,黃蜂便又將他交易到了灰熊。
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接著在曼菲斯的前兩年,Q-Pon被體系嚴謹的灰熊教練團指示朝著3D球員的方向去成長。因此他捨棄了大學時中距離的打法,苦練定點三分投射,並慢慢成為了一名合格的3D外圍鎖。
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在12-13賽季,24歲的Q-Pon場均繳出6.3分2.2籃板39.5%三分命中率的成績。儘管並非一份驚人的數據,不過不斷在穩定成長的他,被認為大有機會成為類似Trevor Ariza那樣的先發級3D前鋒。
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也因此,隔一年13-14賽季當Q-Pon遭受到傷病困擾後,那時已經進入以AD為首的新時代的鵜鶘,便快速鎖定這名年輕舊將,並成功在2014-15賽季季中透過交易獲得他。
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只是鵜鶘沒料到的是,13-14賽季Q-Pon的傷病,僅是一個小小的開端而已...
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而在交易後,Q-Pon確實稱職扮演了鵜鶘需要的3D角色,場均可繳出9分3.1籃板1.5助攻43.3%三分命中率。
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且同時,他的三分Catch & Shoot命中率來到42%,空檔三分命中率也高過四成。可說是不僅將自己的等級拉高到另一個級別,也完美執行了鵜鶘想幫AD拉開空間的期待。
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而防守方面,雖然身材不厚的Q-Pon內線防守不算強勢,但針對外圍來說,他限制對手三分命中率低達30.8%是非常好的成績,也算是達到了鵜鶘對於三分線防守的希望。
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最終,鵜鶘也以Tyreke Evans、Eric Gordon、Q-Pon、Ryan Anderson以及AD這樣的組合,成功打進了AD時代的第一次季後賽。
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...只可惜後面的事情大家想必也清楚。
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鵜鶘隊後來在Evans、Gordon、AD的傷勢頻仍,加上新教練Alvin Gentry執教無能之下,瞬間從新興球隊落入連年幾乎墊底的絕望。
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而Q-Pon,也在看似準備起飛的半季後跌入了傷病的深淵,反覆的膝傷困擾著他,最終竟讓他在14-15賽季後,連續兩個賽季、一場比賽都上不了。
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於是,一名26歲、具備一身3D技術的年輕球員,就這樣在一次次的手術中,最後慘遭折翼。
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...不僅僅是折斷了Q-Pon重新在場上奔跑、跳躍的機會,如今看來,更可能是折斷了他整個NBA生涯。
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所以現在已經29歲、將在下一季滿30歲的Q-Pon,我想,應該最終留給大家的印象就是「鵜鶘那個永遠沒上場的球員」了吧!
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甚至我很懷疑,兩年過後,到底還有多少人會記得聯盟曾有過Quincy Pondexter這名球員。
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而所謂的過客,這應該這就是最佳典範了。
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在籃球最高殿堂中苦苦磨練了自己五年,正要準備驗收成果時...一個傷勢,就這樣永遠抹去了他的存在。
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幾年後在球迷的腦海中,他存在過的五年,將等於是不曾存在過的時光。
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儘管Q-Pon並非天賦好手,但一名堅實好用的綠葉因傷病落到此步,也依舊令人惋惜...
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#QPon #QuincyPondexter #Grizzlies #TakeFlight #Pelicans #Trade #Bulls #3D球員 #傷病
12 13 grizzlies 在 pennyccw Youtube 的最讚貼文
Allen Iverson scored nine of his game-high 29 points in the decisive fourth quarter to lead the Philadelphia 76ers to a 100-93 victory over the Vancouver Grizzlies.
The win extended the 76ers dominance of the Grizzlies to seven games, their longest current winning streak against any opponent.
With Vancouver leading 85-84 with 5:21 remaining, Iverson completed a 3-point play to put the 76ers ahead to stay. The superstar guard added two jumpers from the right corner to give Philadelphia a 91-87 cushion at the 3:39 mark.
"I just got out and ran the lanes and my teammates got me the ball," Iverson said. "When I make a couple of shots, they just keep coming to me."
Mike Bibby hit a driving layup to keep the Grizzlies close at 95-91 with 0:34 left. But Iverson, Aaron McKie and Eric Snow combined for five free throws to put away the game.
"I thought (Vancouver) played great. I thought we played darn good as well," Philadelphia coach Larry Brown said. "We were fortunate to make the big shots down the stretch."
"We just don't have the depth from an offensive perspective to maintain continuity," said Grizzlies coach Lionel Hollins, who spent three seasons as a member of the Sixers.
Matt Geiger had his best game of the season, scoring 20 points on 9-of-15 shooting. The 76ers' center is finding his groove after missing the first 17 games of the season recovering from arthroscopic surgery on his left knee.
"It's coming," Geiger said. "Tonight I hit the shots I've been taking all year and they finally fell."
Iverson scored five points during a 13-2 first-quarter run to give the Sixers a 23-8 lead with 3:39 remaining. The Grizzlies responded with a 12-2 spurt to cut the deficit to 25-20 at the end of the period. Bibby and Shareef Abdur-Rahim scored four points a piece.
The game remained close throughout second quarter, with Philadelphia taking a 50-48 lead at halftime.
Vancouver came out strong in the third quarter, scoring seven straight points to take a 59-52 advantage at the 8:37 mark. The Grizzlies maintained a 67-61 lead with 4:42 left, but Philadelphia closed the period with a 10-4 run to forge a 71-71 tie entering the final period.
George Lynch scored 10 points and grabbed 14 rebounds for the Sixers, who scored 23 points off 13 Vancouver turnovers.
Abdur-Rahim tallied 24 points and grabbed 12 rebounds for the Grizzlies, who have lost six of their last eight home games.
Bibby finished with 18 points and 13 assists for Vancouver, which shot 48 percent (40-for-83) from the floor but was outscored 23-12 at the foul line.
Bryant Reeves had 18 points and eight rebounds before fouling out with 33 seconds left in the game.

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The Philadelphia 76ers are tired after playing six games in eight days. Thanks to Allen Iverson, they had more than enough energy to beat the Memphis Grizzlies.
Iverson scored 33 points as Philadelphia beat Memphis 95-88 Wednesday night, keeping the Grizzlies the NBA's only winless team with their 12th straight loss.
Philadelphia coach Larry Brown wasn't worried about becoming the
first team to lose to the Grizzlies this season.
"I was really impressed with them. I knew it would be a hard game,'' he said. "I just wanted to figure out a way we could hang on. We had some tired guys out there. Allen stepped up, and we had some tremendous defensive stops, and we got a win.''
The 76ers won for only the second time in six road games this
season and got a measure of revenge against Memphis, which swept
last season's two-game series. They lead the all-time series 11-3.
Todd MacCulloch had 15 points and 13 rebounds for Philadelphia.
Eric Snow added 14 points, Aaron McKie 12 and Keith Van Horn 10.
Stromile Swift set a Memphis record by blocking eight shots, and he also had 12 points and 16 rebounds. Rookie Drew Gooden led the Grizzlies with 21 points, Pau Gasol had 14 and Wesley Person added 12 off the bench.
Van Horn called it an ugly game but said the 76ers felt
fortunate to pull out a victory against a team desperate to win. He
said they didn't want to be the first club to lose to Memphis.
"It's definitely on your mind. It's almost like a fear not to be the first to lose,'' he said.
Philadelphia trailed only once, 24-22 in the first quarter, before Brian Skinner hit a pair of free throws and a layup for the lead. The 76ers led by as much as 13 twice, the last time at 54-41 on MacCulloch's layup off an assist by Iverson just before halftime.
The Grizzlies, playing their fourth game in six days and hoping
to give new coach Hubie Brown a victory, pulled to 67-63 when Earl
Watson capped an 8-0 run with a jumper with 1:54 left in the third.
But Iverson, scoreless in the quarter until then, answered with
a pair of 3-pointers. McKie added a jumper for a 75-63 lead after
three.
Gooden scored with 43.4 seconds left to pull the Grizzlies to
92-86, but that was as close as they would get.
Hubie Brown pointed out that he and his assistant coaches have been with the Grizzlies only eight days, playing three of four games against teams that went to the playoffs last season. He is using these games to evaluate his players.
"Are we happy tonight? Absolutely not. We're not happy at all,'' Hubie Brown said. "Give Iverson his due. He made two spectacular shots. I thought he had a rifle instead of his hand. It was just great, great pressure shots.''
Iverson started slowly after scoring a season-high 38 points Tuesday night in a loss to New Orleans. He missed five of his first six shots, turned the ball over three times and had just three points in the first quarter.
The 76ers opened the game with a 9-2 run, but Gooden scored six
points to help the Grizzlies rally. Mike Batiste's layup gave them
a two-point lead late in the first.
Then Iverson warmed up, scoring 13 in the second quarter as he
went 7-of-8 at the free-throw line.
Memphis seemed sluggish after losing 110-106 in overtime at Minnesota on Tuesday night. The Grizzlies shot just 6-of-24 from the floor in the second quarter and finished shooting 39 percent (33-of-84).
Game notes
Swift had seven blocks in the first half. The team record for blocks had been shared by Gasol, who had seven twice last season as a rookie, and Bryant Reeves. ... Derrick Coleman, in just his second game this season, had just one point in 14 minutes for Philadelphia. ... Memphis guard Jason Williams sprained his left foot with 4 minutes left as he landed on Eric Snow's foot after tossing up a 3-point attempt. Williams walked off the court on his
own, but had to be helped to the locker room. X-rays were planned for Thursday.

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Allen Iverson and the Detroit Pistons tightened up on defense to end their losing streak and prolong the agony of the Memphis Grizzlies.
Iverson scored 27 points and helped Detroit limit Memphis to just four shots in the final quarter on the way to an 87-79 victory over the Grizzlies on Monday, ending the Pistons longest losing streak in five seasons.
Rasheed Wallace scored 11 of his 13 points in the second half to help bring Detroits five-game skid to an end.
I think thats what made our offense easy, Iverson said. We were able to shut them down by helping each other on the defensive end. We just didnt leave a guy out there on an island. We helped each other a lot and we did a lot of talking on defense.
The Grizzlies, who lost their sixth straight and for the 14th time in 16 games, missed 10 of their final 12 shots. They didnt score after Mike Conleys driving layup with 2:56 left.
You cant take anything away from those guys, Iverson said. They missed some shots they can make. But we just got it done down the stretch. We did everything we needed to do.
Iverson and Wallace took over to score Detroits final 10 points in the last five minutes after the Grizzlies tied the game at 77.
Wallace hit two free throws and Iverson followed with jump shots on consecutive possessions to make it 83-77. Wallace added two more free throws with 40 seconds left and Iverson made two more with 24 seconds to go for the final margin.
In the fourth quarter, the Grizzlies were 4-of-20 and didnt make a shot in the games final 2:55.
O.J. Mayo and Rudy Gay led the Grizzlies with 15 points apiece and rookie center Marc Gasol had 12 points and 13 rebounds.
We got some good looks down the stretch, we just couldnt put it in the hole, Memphis coach Marc Iavaroni said. We missed a couple of layups and wide-open shots here and there (and) Wallace was a good force inside on O.J. Mayo.
Memphis failed to score 90 points for the fifth time during its six-game losing streak, but started the second half as if it would end its struggles.
The Grizzlies had a 12-4 run late in the third quarter to take a 69-67 lead into the fourth. Memphis, which hadnt led since early in the second quarter, got a 3-pointer from Gay and a technical free throw from Mayo to tie the game at 65 with 1:56 left in the third quarter.
A high-flying dunk by Hakim Warrick tied the game again at 67 about a minute later and a 15-foot jumper by Darrell Arthur put the Grizzlies up two lead going into the fourth.
We kind of collapsed at the end and they really picked it up, Gay said. Allen picked it up and Rasheed really picked up his defense. Rasheed has been around. Hes won championshihps and he knows what to do, especially in late-game situations.
Notes
Memphis scored only 17 points in the first quarter. The Grizzlies are 0-15 this season when they fail to score at least 20 in the opening period. Grizzlies guard O.J. Mayo, the teams leading scorer at 19.4 points per game, did not attempt a shot in the second quarter. Detroits Tayshaun Prince, who went 14-for-27 in the teams past two games, was 2-for-12.
