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《給今天仍然認為示威者破壞香港的人》(added english version, scroll down)

常見論調：

（一）無論你有甚麼訴求，都不要搞亂香港

你認為示威者的堵路、破壞是導致：
1. 交通癱瘓/擠塞/提早停車
2. 令你不能準時上班/外出
3. 經濟不景
等的主因？

錯。 因為你看不到
1. 十八區瀰漫不知多少催淚氣體，會長期對所有香港人健康造成極大影響
2. 濫捕濫暴無法無天，下一位受害可能就是你或你的子女/朋友/身邊人/親人
3. 逐漸收緊及消失的自由和權利，包括遊行/集會/言論
4. 私人地方不再是私人地方，居民竟然要在自家大堂跪地舉高手搜身，甚至被捕。大學校園淪為戰地，學生被屠殺。
5. 地鐵一些閘/出口根本沒有受破壞，只是配合政權
等等。

政權腐敗才是社會動盪的主因。無論你們正處於收成期/還在社會打拼，請認清楚，漠視民意的政府，瘋狂屠殺港人的恐怖份子，才是搞亂香港。

（二）這樣能爭取到自由民主嗎？（指打砸搶的畫面）

不。只是二百萬人上街的和平遊行、多個數十萬/數萬人/各行各業發起的集會、人鏈、摺紙鶴、唱歌，無數和平的方法都嘗試過後，訴求得不到聆聽，警暴更加肆虐，甚至有否不反對通知書亦無法行使集會遊行權利之時，比較激烈的手法才隨之出現。

【打】你們最喜歡說：示威者不就是連中年人/老人家都打，政見不同便打？不是暴徒是甚麼？

1. 請看完整片段/了解事情來龍去脈。每次均是該中年/老人先撩者賤，自衛&反擊也合理不過。
2. 政見不同便打？哦，有的。藍絲的士司機撞斷女子雙腿，連儂牆斬女記者至重傷，年輕男生手腳斬至見骨，咬掉議員耳朵，用刀捅路人夫婦至危殆等。他們才因為政見不同而產生極端仇恨，嚴重傷害他人身體吧？這些才是暴徒。

【砸/燒】 有關為甚麼示威者會破壞某店舖/鐵，坊間太多解釋。別懶，自己search一下好好看看。

另外，暴力行為當然無法帶來自由民主，藍絲知道就最好了，請收手。

（三）讀書有何用，都被煽動了，一定收了錢

【學歷高/有讀書】 你要別人相信那些發聲的大學生、老師、教授、醫生、護士、救護人員、公務員、律師、博士、碩士、社工等等都被煽動？還是學歷低的五毛藍絲才不懂明辨是非黑白？我相信大部分人都會認同後者較容易受煽動/不動腦吧。

【煽動】 那麼容易受煽動，你怎麼不煽動他們？

【收錢論】 若然當前線能夠收到那麼多錢，甚至買樓，就所有人都衝去當前線了。大眾只知道機場那記者收了十萬，撞人的士司機也收了五十二萬，黑警ot也收穫甚豐。

————————————————

好好想想。
你們支持毒打、虐待、甚至殺害示威者是多麼泯滅人性，
是有多蠢，才看不到誰在搞亂香港。
天真自私地認為這樣就能令香港回復繁榮穩定。

如果你們的子女/朋友/親人是示威者的話，
你們不配擁有他們。

[english version]
《To those who still blame protesters for destroying Hong Kong》

Common views of you guys:

（A）Regardless of your requests, just stop creating chaos in Hong Kong

You think protesters block roads and destroy public facilities/glass/MTR station facilities are the main reason/factor that lead to:
1. Traffic congestion/gridlok/early closure/temporarily closed of transportation
2. Not being able to come to work on time/ go out
3. Economic recession/distress

Not at all.
It’s only because you cannot see that:
1. Countless tear gas diffused in the air that air pollution will have a serious and prolonged negative effect on all Hong Kongers’ health.
2. Indiscriminate arrests & countless experiences of police brutality, you or your child/friends/family members may be the next target to face police misconduct and violence.
3. Freedom & rights are gradually tightening and vanishing, including rally, assembly and freedom of speech
4. No more private properties and place. For instances, residents kneeled down and let cops searched their body & even made arrest at lobby of their residential building. University campus turned into war zone , students are facing a massacre.
5. Some exits/ ticket machines/ gates of MTR weren’t destroyed. MTR was only cooperated/bowed to the regime.
etc.

Corrupted regime is the main reason of social instability / chaos. No matter you are retired/ rich enough / still working, please open your eyes and realise that this government which keeps turning a blind eye to public opinions & these crazy green terrorists who maltreat and kill Hongkongers, are those who create chaos in Hong Kong.

（B）Doing this can fight for /achieve freedom and democracy?（referring to scenes of protesters beat/hit/destroy/light fire)

No. But these rather radical measures only took place after protesters already tried & participated in numerous peaceful activities such as 1 & 2 million people peaceful rallies (6.9,6.16,8.18) , tens/hundreds of thousand people joined assemblies & assemblies of different industries, human chains, fold paper crane, sing songs, and still, the government ignored them & the escalating police violence & even when protesters are now deprived of rights to assembly and rally with or without Letter of No Objection.

【Hit/beat people】You guys always love to say, ‘Protesters beat middle-aged/elderly, and those who have different views. If they are not rioters, who are they?'

1. Please watch the whole, complete video/broadcast & find out the ins and outs first. Everytime that middle-aged/elderly provoked the fight, so it makes perfect sense for protesters/Hongkongers to fight back/self-defense/protect themselves.

2. Beating people with different political views? Oh, yes. The blue ribbon taxi driver drove to the crowd of protesters and hit a 23-year-old woman that her legs suffered serious fractures, another blue ribbon uncle stabed a young female reporters at lennon wall in Tseong Kwan O that she was severely injured , young boy being slashed with a knife which caused very deep wounds that he could not walk, bit off a ear of a district councillor, stabbed pedestrians at Taikoo etc. These blue ribbons are the ones who have maximum level of intense hatred towards protesters that they deliberately and insanely hurt other people. These are the real rioters.

【Destroy public facilities/ light fire】 Regarding why protesters destroy certain shops/MTR, there are plenty of explanations circulating around. Stop being lazybones, search them yourself and have a good read.

Besides, of course violence acts cannot bring freedom and democracy. It would be great if blue ribbons know, and please stop doing it.

（Three）What’s the use of studying? Students are being incited/stoked up/ they must have received money/benefits.

【Highly-educated/educated】 Don’t you think anyone with a clear mind would believe that those university students, teachers, professors , doctors, medical professionals, civil servants, lawyers, social workers etc. are being incited/instigated？Or rather, they would think that those 0.5/blue ribbons who are undereducated /less educated are easier to be deceived without knowing it? I believe the latter is more convincing.

【Stoke up】If it is that easy to incite anger/ persuade students/ young people/ any protester, why don’t you instigate them?

【Views of protesters receiving money/benefits to take part in the movement】 If being a frontline protesters can earn/receive that much money/benefits or even enough to buy a house, then everyone would be a frontline. The public only know that the reporter at the airport received RMB $100k, the taxi driver received $520k and the cops earn a great deal of money from working overtime.
————————————————
Please stop and think.

You guys lost your humanity when supporting the beatings, maltreating and even killing the protesters.

What an idiot you are to not being able to know & see who are ruining Hong Kong and creating all these chaos.

How selfish and naive for you to think that by hurting and arrest all protesters can let Hong Kong resume its stability and prosperity.

If your child/ friend/ relatives are one of the protesters,
you don’t deserve them.

———
Ig : Luetsicga

《給今天仍然認為示威者破壞香港的人》(added english version, scroll down)

常見論調：

（一）無論你有甚麼訴求，都不要搞亂香港

你認為示威者的堵路、破壞是導致：
1. 交通癱瘓/擠塞/提早停車
2. 令你不能準時上班/外出
3. 經濟不景
等的主因？

錯。 因為你看不到
1. 十八區瀰漫不知多少催淚氣體，會長期對所有香港人健康造成極大影響
2. 濫捕濫暴無法無天，下一位受害可能就是你或你的子女/朋友/身邊人/親人
3. 逐漸收緊及消失的自由和權利，包括遊行/集會/言論
4. 私人地方不再是私人地方，居民竟然要在自家大堂跪地舉高手搜身，甚至被捕。大學校園淪為戰地，學生被屠殺。
5. 地鐵一些閘/出口根本沒有受破壞，只是配合政權
等等。

政權腐敗才是社會動盪的主因。無論你們正處於收成期/還在社會打拼，請認清楚，漠視民意的政府，瘋狂屠殺港人的恐怖份子，才是搞亂香港。

（二）這樣能爭取到自由民主嗎？（指打砸搶的畫面）

不。只是二百萬人上街的和平遊行、多個數十萬/數萬人/各行各業發起的集會、人鏈、摺紙鶴、唱歌，無數和平的方法都嘗試過後，訴求得不到聆聽，警暴更加肆虐，甚至有否不反對通知書亦無法行使集會遊行權利之時，比較激烈的手法才隨之出現。

【打】你們最喜歡說：示威者不就是連中年人/老人家都打，政見不同便打？不是暴徒是甚麼？

1. 請看完整片段/了解事情來龍去脈。每次均是該中年/老人先撩者賤，自衛&反擊也合理不過。
2. 政見不同便打？哦，有的。藍絲的士司機撞斷女子雙腿，連儂牆斬女記者至重傷，年輕男生手腳斬至見骨，咬掉議員耳朵，用刀捅路人夫婦至危殆等。他們才因為政見不同而產生極端仇恨，嚴重傷害他人身體吧？這些才是暴徒。

【砸/燒】 有關為甚麼示威者會破壞某店舖/鐵，坊間太多解釋。別懶，自己search一下好好看看。

另外，暴力行為當然無法帶來自由民主，藍絲知道就最好了，請收手。

（三）讀書有何用，都被煽動了，一定收了錢

【學歷高/有讀書】 你要別人相信那些發聲的大學生、老師、教授、醫生、護士、救護人員、公務員、律師、博士、碩士、社工等等都被煽動？還是學歷低的五毛藍絲才不懂明辨是非黑白？我相信大部分人都會認同後者較容易受煽動/不動腦吧。

【煽動】 那麼容易受煽動，你怎麼不煽動他們？

【收錢論】 若然當前線能夠收到那麼多錢，甚至買樓，就所有人都衝去當前線了。大眾只知道機場那記者收了十萬，撞人的士司機也收了五十二萬，黑警ot也收穫甚豐。

————————————————

好好想想。
你們支持毒打、虐待、甚至殺害示威者是多麼泯滅人性，
是有多蠢，才看不到誰在搞亂香港。
天真自私地認為這樣就能令香港回復繁榮穩定。

如果你們的子女/朋友/親人是示威者的話，
你們不配擁有他們。

[english version]
《To those who still blame protesters for destroying Hong Kong》

Common views of you guys:

（A）Regardless of your requests, just stop creating chaos in Hong Kong

You think protesters block roads and destroy public facilities/glass/MTR station facilities are the main reason/factor that lead to:
1. Traffic congestion/gridlok/early closure/temporarily closed of transportation
2. Not being able to come to work on time/ go out
3. Economic recession/distress

Not at all.
It’s only because you cannot see that:
1. Countless tear gas diffused in the air that air pollution will have a serious and prolonged negative effect on all Hong Kongers’ health.
2. Indiscriminate arrests & countless experiences of police brutality, you or your child/friends/family members may be the next target to face police misconduct and violence.
3. Freedom & rights are gradually tightening and vanishing, including rally, assembly and freedom of speech
4. No more private properties and place. For instances, residents kneeled down and let cops searched their body & even made arrest at lobby of their residential building. University campus turned into war zone , students are facing a massacre.
5. Some exits/ ticket machines/ gates of MTR weren’t destroyed. MTR was only cooperated/bowed to the regime.
etc.

Corrupted regime is the main reason of social instability / chaos. No matter you are retired/ rich enough / still working, please open your eyes and realise that this government which keeps turning a blind eye to public opinions & these crazy green terrorists who maltreat and kill Hongkongers, are those who create chaos in Hong Kong.

（B）Doing this can fight for /achieve freedom and democracy?（referring to scenes of protesters beat/hit/destroy/light fire)

No. But these rather radical measures only took place after protesters already tried & participated in numerous peaceful activities such as 1 & 2 million people peaceful rallies (6.9,6.16,8.18) , tens/hundreds of thousand people joined assemblies & assemblies of different industries, human chains, fold paper crane, sing songs, and still, the government ignored them & the escalating police violence & even when protesters are now deprived of rights to assembly and rally with or without Letter of No Objection.

【Hit/beat people】You guys always love to say, ‘Protesters beat middle-aged/elderly, and those who have different views. If they are not rioters, who are they?'

1. Please watch the whole, complete video/broadcast & find out the ins and outs first. Everytime that middle-aged/elderly provoked the fight, so it makes perfect sense for protesters/Hongkongers to fight back/self-defense/protect themselves.

2. Beating people with different political views? Oh, yes. The blue ribbon taxi driver drove to the crowd of protesters and hit a 23-year-old woman that her legs suffered serious fractures, another blue ribbon uncle stabed a young female reporters at lennon wall in Tseong Kwan O that she was severely injured , young boy being slashed with a knife which caused very deep wounds that he could not walk, bit off a ear of a district councillor, stabbed pedestrians at Taikoo etc. These blue ribbons are the ones who have maximum level of intense hatred towards protesters that they deliberately and insanely hurt other people. These are the real rioters.

【Destroy public facilities/ light fire】 Regarding why protesters destroy certain shops/MTR, there are plenty of explanations circulating around. Stop being lazybones, search them yourself and have a good read.

Besides, of course violence acts cannot bring freedom and democracy. It would be great if blue ribbons know, and please stop doing it.

（Three）What’s the use of studying? Students are being incited/stoked up/ they must have received money/benefits.

【Highly-educated/educated】 Don’t you think anyone with a clear mind would believe that those university students, teachers, professors , doctors, medical professionals, civil servants, lawyers, social workers etc. are being incited/instigated？Or rather, they would think that those 0.5/blue ribbons who are undereducated /less educated are easier to be deceived without knowing it? I believe the latter is more convincing.

【Stoke up】If it is that easy to incite anger/ persuade students/ young people/ any protester, why don’t you instigate them?

【Views of protesters receiving money/benefits to take part in the movement】 If being a frontline protesters can earn/receive that much money/benefits or even enough to buy a house, then everyone would be a frontline. The public only know that the reporter at the airport received RMB $100k, the taxi driver received $520k and the cops earn a great deal of money from working overtime.
————————————————
Please stop and think.

You guys lost your humanity when supporting the beatings, maltreating and even killing the protesters.

What an idiot you are to not being able to know & see who are ruining Hong Kong and creating all these chaos.

How selfish and naive for you to think that by hurting and arrest all protesters can let Hong Kong resume its stability and prosperity.

If your child/ friend/ relatives are one of the protesters,
you don’t deserve them.

———
Ig : Luetsicga

《給今天仍然認為示威者破壞香港的人》(added english version, scroll down)

常見論調：

（一）無論你有甚麼訴求，都不要搞亂香港

你認為示威者的堵路、破壞是導致：
1. 交通癱瘓/擠塞/提早停車
2. 令你不能準時上班/外出
3. 經濟不景
等的主因？

錯。 因為你看不到
1. 十八區瀰漫不知多少催淚氣體，會長期對所有香港人健康造成極大影響
2. 濫捕濫暴無法無天，下一位受害可能就是你或你的子女/朋友/身邊人/親人
3. 逐漸收緊及消失的自由和權利，包括遊行/集會/言論
4. 私人地方不再是私人地方，居民竟然要在自家大堂跪地舉高手搜身，甚至被捕。大學校園淪為戰地，學生被屠殺。
5. 地鐵一些閘/出口根本沒有受破壞，只是配合政權
等等。

政權腐敗才是社會動盪的主因。無論你們正處於收成期/還在社會打拼，請認清楚，漠視民意的政府，瘋狂屠殺港人的恐怖份子，才是搞亂香港。

（二）這樣能爭取到自由民主嗎？（指打砸搶的畫面）

不。只是二百萬人上街的和平遊行、多個數十萬/數萬人/各行各業發起的集會、人鏈、摺紙鶴、唱歌，無數和平的方法都嘗試過後，訴求得不到聆聽，警暴更加肆虐，甚至有否不反對通知書亦無法行使集會遊行權利之時，比較激烈的手法才隨之出現。

【打】你們最喜歡說：示威者不就是連中年人/老人家都打，政見不同便打？不是暴徒是甚麼？

1. 請看完整片段/了解事情來龍去脈。每次均是該中年/老人先撩者賤，自衛&反擊也合理不過。
2. 政見不同便打？哦，有的。藍絲的士司機撞斷女子雙腿，連儂牆斬女記者至重傷，年輕男生手腳斬至見骨，咬掉議員耳朵，用刀捅路人夫婦至危殆等。他們才因為政見不同而產生極端仇恨，嚴重傷害他人身體吧？這些才是暴徒。

【砸/燒】 有關為甚麼示威者會破壞某店舖/鐵，坊間太多解釋。別懶，自己search一下好好看看。

另外，暴力行為當然無法帶來自由民主，藍絲知道就最好了，請收手。

（三）讀書有何用，都被煽動了，一定收了錢

【學歷高/有讀書】 你要別人相信那些發聲的大學生、老師、教授、醫生、護士、救護人員、公務員、律師、博士、碩士、社工等等都被煽動？還是學歷低的五毛藍絲才不懂明辨是非黑白？我相信大部分人都會認同後者較容易受煽動/不動腦吧。

【煽動】 那麼容易受煽動，你怎麼不煽動他們？

【收錢論】 若然當前線能夠收到那麼多錢，甚至買樓，就所有人都衝去當前線了。大眾只知道機場那記者收了十萬，撞人的士司機也收了五十二萬，黑警ot也收穫甚豐。

————————————————

好好想想。
你們支持毒打、虐待、甚至殺害示威者是多麼泯滅人性，
是有多蠢，才看不到誰在搞亂香港。
天真自私地認為這樣就能令香港回復繁榮穩定。

如果你們的子女/朋友/親人是示威者的話，
你們不配擁有他們。

[english version]
《To those who still blame protesters for destroying Hong Kong》

Common views of you guys:

（A）Regardless of your requests, just stop creating chaos in Hong Kong

You think protesters block roads and destroy public facilities/glass/MTR station facilities are the main reason/factor that lead to:
1. Traffic congestion/gridlok/early closure/temporarily closed of transportation
2. Not being able to come to work on time/ go out
3. Economic recession/distress

Not at all.
It’s only because you cannot see that:
1. Countless tear gas diffused in the air that air pollution will have a serious and prolonged negative effect on all Hong Kongers’ health.
2. Indiscriminate arrests & countless experiences of police brutality, you or your child/friends/family members may be the next target to face police misconduct and violence.
3. Freedom & rights are gradually tightening and vanishing, including rally, assembly and freedom of speech
4. No more private properties and place. For instances, residents kneeled down and let cops searched their body & even made arrest at lobby of their residential building. University campus turned into war zone , students are facing a massacre.
5. Some exits/ ticket machines/ gates of MTR weren’t destroyed. MTR was only cooperated/bowed to the regime.
etc.

Corrupted regime is the main reason of social instability / chaos. No matter you are retired/ rich enough / still working, please open your eyes and realise that this government which keeps turning a blind eye to public opinions & these crazy green terrorists who maltreat and kill Hongkongers, are those who create chaos in Hong Kong.

（B）Doing this can fight for /achieve freedom and democracy?（referring to scenes of protesters beat/hit/destroy/light fire)

No. But these rather radical measures only took place after protesters already tried & participated in numerous peaceful activities such as 1 & 2 million people peaceful rallies (6.9,6.16,8.18) , tens/hundreds of thousand people joined assemblies & assemblies of different industries, human chains, fold paper crane, sing songs, and still, the government ignored them & the escalating police violence & even when protesters are now deprived of rights to assembly and rally with or without Letter of No Objection.

【Hit/beat people】You guys always love to say, ‘Protesters beat middle-aged/elderly, and those who have different views. If they are not rioters, who are they?'

1. Please watch the whole, complete video/broadcast & find out the ins and outs first. Everytime that middle-aged/elderly provoked the fight, so it makes perfect sense for protesters/Hongkongers to fight back/self-defense/protect themselves.

2. Beating people with different political views? Oh, yes. The blue ribbon taxi driver drove to the crowd of protesters and hit a 23-year-old woman that her legs suffered serious fractures, another blue ribbon uncle stabed a young female reporters at lennon wall in Tseong Kwan O that she was severely injured , young boy being slashed with a knife which caused very deep wounds that he could not walk, bit off a ear of a district councillor, stabbed pedestrians at Taikoo etc. These blue ribbons are the ones who have maximum level of intense hatred towards protesters that they deliberately and insanely hurt other people. These are the real rioters.

【Destroy public facilities/ light fire】 Regarding why protesters destroy certain shops/MTR, there are plenty of explanations circulating around. Stop being lazybones, search them yourself and have a good read.

Besides, of course violence acts cannot bring freedom and democracy. It would be great if blue ribbons know, and please stop doing it.

（Three）What’s the use of studying? Students are being incited/stoked up/ they must have received money/benefits.

【Highly-educated/educated】 Don’t you think anyone with a clear mind would believe that those university students, teachers, professors , doctors, medical professionals, civil servants, lawyers, social workers etc. are being incited/instigated？Or rather, they would think that those 0.5/blue ribbons who are undereducated /less educated are easier to be deceived without knowing it? I believe the latter is more convincing.

【Stoke up】If it is that easy to incite anger/ persuade students/ young people/ any protester, why don’t you instigate them?

【Views of protesters receiving money/benefits to take part in the movement】 If being a frontline protesters can earn/receive that much money/benefits or even enough to buy a house, then everyone would be a frontline. The public only know that the reporter at the airport received RMB $100k, the taxi driver received $520k and the cops earn a great deal of money from working overtime.
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Please stop and think.

You guys lost your humanity when supporting the beatings, maltreating and even killing the protesters.

What an idiot you are to not being able to know & see who are ruining Hong Kong and creating all these chaos.

How selfish and naive for you to think that by hurting and arrest all protesters can let Hong Kong resume its stability and prosperity.

If your child/ friend/ relatives are one of the protesters,
you don’t deserve them.

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Ig : Luetsicga