這是前些日子爆出已經被加拿大法院接理對藏傳佛教噶舉派法王的訟訴。(加拿大法院鏈接在此:https://www.bccourts.ca/jdb-txt/sc/21/09/2021BCSC0939cor1.htm?fbclid=IwAR2FLZlzmUIGTBaTuKPVchEqqngcE3Qy6G_C0TWNWVKa2ksbIYkVJVMQ8f8)
這位法王的桃色事件,我是幾年前才聽到。但,藏傳佛教的高層有這些性醜聞,我已經聽了幾十年。我以前的一位前女友也被一些堪布藉故上她的家摟抱過,也有一些活佛跟她表白。(這不只是她,其他地方我也聽過不少)
這是一個藏傳佛教裡面系統式的問題。
很多時候發生這種事情,信徒和教主往往都是說女方得不到寵而報仇,或者說她們也精神病,或者說她們撒謊。
我不排除有這種可能性,但,多過一位,甚至多位出來指證的時候,我是傾向於相信『沒有那麼巧這麼多有精神病的女人要撒謊來報仇』。
大寶法王的桃色事件,最先吹哨的是一位台灣的在家信徒,第二位是香港的女出家人,現在加拿大又多一位公開舉報上法庭。
對大寶法王信徒來說,這一次的比較麻煩,因為是有孩子的。(關於有孩子的,我早在法王的桃色事件曝光時,就有聽聞)
如果法庭勒令要驗證DNA,這對法王和他的信徒來說,會很尷尬和矛盾,因為做或不做,都死。
你若問我,我覺得『人數是有力量的』,同時我也覺得之後有更多的人站出來,是不出奇的。
我也藉此呼籲各方佛教徒,如果你們真的愛佛教,先別說批判,但如鴕鳥般不討論這些爭議,你是間接害了佛教。
(下面是我從加拿大法院鏈接拷貝下來的內容,當中有很多細節。)
Table of Contents
INTRODUCTION
BACKGROUND
ANALYSIS
A. The Spousal Support Claim in this Case
B. The Test to Amend Pleadings
C. Pleadings in Family Law Cases
D. The Legal Concept of a Marriage-Like Relationship
E. Is There a Reasonable Claim of a Marriage-Like Relationship?
F. Delay / Prejudice
CONCLUSION
INTRODUCTION
[1] The claimant applies to amend her notice of family claim to seek spousal support. At issue is whether the claimant’s allegations give rise to a reasonable claim she lived with the respondent in a marriage-like relationship, so as to give rise to a potential entitlement to spousal support under the Family Law Act, S.B.C. 2011, c. 25 (“FLA”).
[2] The facts alleged by the claimant do not fit within a traditional concept of marriage. The claimant does not allege that she and the respondent ever lived together. Indeed, she has only met the respondent in person four times: twice very briefly in a public setting; a third time in private, when she alleges the respondent sexually assaulted her; and a fourth and final occasion, when she informed the respondent she was pregnant with his child.
[3] The claimant’s case is that what began as a non-consensual sexual encounter evolved into a loving and affectionate relationship. That relationship occurred almost entirely over private text messages. The parties rarely spoke on the telephone, and never saw one another during the relationship, even over video. The claimant says they could not be together because the respondent is forbidden by his station and religious beliefs from intimate relationships or marriage. Nonetheless, she alleges, they formed a marriage-like relationship that lasted from January 2018 to January 2019.
[4] The respondent denies any romantic relationship with the claimant. While he acknowledges providing emotional and financial support to the claimant, he says it was for the benefit of the child the claimant told him was his daughter.
[5] The claimant’s proposed amendment raises a novel question: can a secret relationship that began on-line and never moved into the physical world be like a marriage? In my view, that question should be answered by a trial judge after hearing all of the evidence. The alleged facts give rise to a reasonable claim the claimant lived with the respondent in a marriage-like relationship. Accordingly, I grant the claimant leave to amend her notice of family claim.
BACKGROUND
[6] It should be emphasized that this is an application to amend pleadings only. The allegations by the claimant are presumed to be true for the purposes of this application. Those allegations have not been tested in a court of law.
[7] The respondent, Ogyen Trinley Dorje, is a high lama of the Karma Kagyu School of Tibetan Buddhism. He has been recognized and enthroned as His Holiness, the 17th Gyalwang Karmapa. Without meaning any disrespect, I will refer to him as Mr. Dorje in these reasons for judgment.
[8] Mr. Dorje leads a monastic and nomadic lifestyle. His true home is Tibet, but he currently resides in India. He receives followers from around the world at the Gyuto Monetary in India. He also travels the world teaching Tibetan Buddhist Dharma and hosting pujas, ceremonies at which Buddhists express their gratitude and devotion to the Buddha.
[9] The claimant, Vikki Hui Xin Han, is a former nun of Tibetan Buddhism. Ms. Han first encountered Mr. Dorje briefly at a large puja in 2014. The experience of the puja convinced Ms. Han she wanted to become a Buddhist nun. She met briefly with Mr. Dorje, in accordance with Kagyu traditions, to obtain his approval to become a nun.
[10] In October 2016, Ms. Han began a three-year, three-month meditation retreat at a monastery in New York State. Her objective was to learn the practices and teachings of the Kagyu Lineage. Mr. Dorje was present at the retreat twice during the time Ms. Han was at the monastery.
[11] Ms. Han alleges that on October 14, 2017, Mr. Dorje sexually assaulted her in her room at the monastery. She alleges that she became pregnant from the assault.
[12] After she learned that she was pregnant, Ms. Han requested a private audience with Mr. Dorje. In November 2017, in the presence of his bodyguards, Ms. Han informed Mr. Dorje she was pregnant with his child. Mr. Dorje initially denied responsibility; however, he provided Ms. Han with his email address and a cellphone number, and, according to Ms. Han, said he would “prepare some money” for her.
[13] Ms. Han abandoned her plan to become a nun, left the retreat and returned to Canada. She never saw Mr. Dorje again.
[14] After Ms. Han returned to Canada, she and Mr. Dorje began a regular communication over an instant messaging app called Line. They also exchanged emails and occasionally spoke on the telephone.
[15] The parties appear to have expressed care and affection for one another in these communications. I say “appear to” because it is difficult to fully understand the meaning and intentions of another person from brief text messages, especially those originally written in a different language. The parties wrote in a private shorthand, sharing jokes, emojis, cartoon portraits and “hugs” or “kisses”. Ms. Han was the more expressive of the two, writing more frequently and in longer messages. Mr. Dorje generally participated in response to questions or prompting from Ms. Han, sometimes in single word messages.
[16] Ms. Han deposes that she believed Mr. Dorje was in love with her and that, by January 2018, she and Mr. Dorje were living in a “conjugal relationship”.
[17] During their communications, Ms. Han expressed concern that her child would be “illegitimate”. She appears to have asked Mr. Dorje to marry her, and he appears to have responded that he was “not ready”.
[18] Throughout 2018, Mr. Dorje transferred funds in various denominations to Ms. Han through various third parties. Ms. Han deposes that these funds were:
a) $50,000 CDN to deliver the child and for postpartum care she was to receive at a facility in Seattle;
b) $300,000 CDN for the first year of the child’s life;
c) $20,000 USD for a wedding ring, because Ms. Han wrote “Even if we cannot get married, you must buy me a wedding ring”;
d) $400,000 USD to purchase a home for the mother and child.
[19] On June 19, 2018, Ms. Han gave birth to a daughter in Richmond, B.C.
[20] On September 17, 2018, Mr. Dorje wrote, ”Taking care of her and you are my duty for life”.
[21] Ms. Han’s expectation was that the parties would live together in the future. She says they planned to live together. Those plans evolved over time. Initially they involved purchasing a property in Toronto, so that Mr. Dorje could visit when he was in New York. They also discussed purchasing property in Calgary or renting a home in Vancouver for that purpose. Ms. Han eventually purchased a condominium in Richmond using funds provided by Mr. Dorje.
[22] Ms. Han deposes that the parties made plans for Mr. Dorje to visit her and meet the child in Richmond. In October 2018, however, Mr. Dorje wrote that he needed to “disappear” to Europe. He wrote:
I will definitely find a way to meet her
And you
Remember to take care of yourself if something happens
[23] The final plan the parties discussed, according to Ms. Han, was that Mr. Dorje would sponsor Ms. Han and the child to immigrate to the United States and live at the Kagyu retreat centre in New York State.
[24] In January 2019, Ms. Han lost contact with Mr. Dorje.
[25] Ms. Han commenced this family law case on July 17, 2019, seeking child support, a declaration of parentage and a parentage test. She did not seek spousal support.
[26] Ms. Han first proposed a claim for spousal support in October 2020 after a change in her counsel. Following an exchange of correspondence concerning an application for leave to amend the notice of family claim, Ms. Han’s counsel wrote that Ms. Han would not be advancing a spousal support claim. On March 16, 2020, counsel reversed course, and advised that Ms. Han had instructed him to proceed with the application.
[27] When this application came on before me, the trial was set to commence on June 7, 2021. The parties were still in the process of discoveries and obtaining translations for hundreds of pages of documents in Chinese characters.
[28] At a trial management conference on May 6, 2021, noting the parties were not ready to proceed, Madam Justice Walkem adjourned the trial to April 11, 2022.
ANALYSIS
A. The Spousal Support Claim in this Case
[29] To claim spousal support in this case, Ms. Han must plead that she lived with Mr. Dorje in a marriage-like relationship. This is because only “spouses” are entitled to spousal support, and s. 3 of the Family Law Act defines a spouse as a person who is married or has lived with another person in a marriage-like relationship:
3 (1) A person is a spouse for the purposes of this Act if the person
(a) is married to another person, or
(b) has lived with another person in a marriage-like relationship, and
(i) has done so for a continuous period of at least 2 years, or
(ii) except in Parts 5 [Property Division] and 6 [Pension Division], has a child with the other person.
[30] Because she alleges she has a child with Mr. Dorje, Ms. Han need not allege that the relationship endured for a continuous period of two years to claim spousal support; but she must allege that she lived in a marriage-like relationship with him at some point in time. Accordingly, she must amend the notice of family claim.
B. The Test to Amend Pleadings
[31] Given that the notice of trial has been served, Ms. Han requires leave of the court to amend the notice of family claim: Supreme Court Family Rule 8-1(1)(b)(i).
[32] A person seeking to amend a notice of family claim must show that there is a reasonable cause of action. This is a low threshold. What the applicant needs to establish is that, if the facts pleaded are proven at trial, they would support a reasonable claim. The applicant’s allegations of fact are assumed to be true for the purposes of this analysis. Cantelon v. Wall, 2015 BCSC 813, at para. 7-8.
[33] The applicant’s delay, the reasons for the delay, and the prejudice to the responding party are also relevant factors. The ultimate consideration is whether it would be just and convenient to allow the amendment. Cantelon, at para. 6, citing Teal Cedar Products Ltd. v. Dale Intermediaries Ltd. et al (1986), 19 B.C.L.R. (3d) 282.
C. Pleadings in Family Law Cases
[34] Supreme Court Family Rules 3-1(1) and 4-1(1) require that a claim to spousal support be pleaded in a notice of family claim in Form F3. Section 2 of Form F3, “Spousal relationship history”, requires a spousal support claimant to check the boxes that apply to them, according to whether they are or have been married or are or have been in a marriage-like relationship. Where a claimant alleges a marriage-like relationship, Form F3 requires that they provide the date on which they began to live together with the respondent in a marriage-like relationship and, where applicable, the date on which they separated. Form F3 does not require a statement of the factual basis for the claim of spousal support.
[35] In this case, Ms. Han seeks to amend the notice of family claim to allege that she and Mr. Dorje began to live in a marriage-like relationship in or around January 2018, and separated in or around January 2019.
[36] An allegation that a person lived with a claimant in a marriage-like relationship is a conclusion of law, not an allegation of fact. Unlike the rules governing pleadings in civil actions, however, the Supreme Court Family Rules do not expressly require family law claimants to plead the material facts in support of conclusions of law.
[37] In other words, there is no express requirement in the Supreme Court Family Rules that Ms. Han plead the facts on which she relies for the allegation she and Mr. Dorje lived in a marriage-like relationship.
[38] Rule 4-6 authorizes a party to demand particulars, and then apply to the court for an order for further and better particulars, of a matter stated in a pleading. However, unless and until she is granted leave and files the proposed amended notice of family claim, Ms. Han’s allegation of a marriage-like relationship is not a matter stated in a pleading.
[39] Ms. Han filed an affidavit in support of her application to amend the notice of family claim. Normally, evidence would not be required or admissible on an application to amend a pleading. However, in the unusual circumstances of this case, the parties agreed I may look to Ms. Han’s affidavit and exhibits for the facts she pleads in support of the allegation of a marriage-like relationship.
[40] Because this is an application to amend - and Ms. Han’s allegations of fact are presumed to be true - I have not considered Mr. Dorje’s responding affidavit.
[41] Relying on affidavit evidence for an application to amend pleadings is less than ideal. It tends to merge and confuse the material facts with the evidence that would be relied on to prove those facts. In a number of places in her affidavit, for example, Ms. Han describes her feelings, impressions and understandings. A person’s hopes and intentions are not normally material facts unless they are mutual or reasonably held. The facts on which Ms. Han alleges she and Mr. Dorje formed a marriage-like relationship are more important for the present purposes than her belief they entered into a conjugal union.
[42] Somewhat unusually, in this case, almost all of the parties’ relevant communications were in writing. This makes it somewhat easier to separate the facts from the evidence; however, as stated above, it is difficult to understand the intentions and actions of a person from brief text messages.
[43] In my view, it would be a good practice for applicants who seek to amend their pleadings in family law cases to provide opposing counsel and the court with a schedule of the material facts on which they rely for the proposed amendment.
D. The Legal Concept of a Marriage-Like Relationship
[44] As Mr. Justice Myers observed in Mother 1 v. Solus Trust Company, 2019 BCSC 200, the concept of a marriage-like relationship is elastic and difficult to define. This elasticity is illustrated by the following passage from Yakiwchuk v. Oaks, 2003 SKQB 124, quoted by Myers J. at para. 133 of Mother 1:
[10] Spousal relationships are many and varied. Individuals in spousal relationships, whether they are married or not, structure their relationships differently. In some relationships there is a complete blending of finances and property - in others, spouses keep their property and finances totally separate and in still others one spouse may totally control those aspects of the relationship with the other spouse having little or no knowledge or input. For some couples, sexual relations are very important - for others, that aspect may take a back seat to companionship. Some spouses do not share the same bed. There may be a variety of reasons for this such as health or personal choice. Some people are affectionate and demonstrative. They show their feelings for their “spouse” by holding hands, touching and kissing in public. Other individuals are not demonstrative and do not engage in public displays of affection. Some “spouses” do everything together - others do nothing together. Some “spouses” vacation together and some spend their holidays apart. Some “spouses” have children - others do not. It is this variation in the way human beings structure their relationships that make the determination of when a “spousal relationship” exists difficult to determine. With married couples, the relationship is easy to establish. The marriage ceremony is a public declaration of their commitment and intent. Relationships outside marriage are much more difficult to ascertain. Rarely is there any type of “public” declaration of intent. Often people begin cohabiting with little forethought or planning. Their motivation is often nothing more than wanting to “be together”. Some individuals have chosen to enter relationships outside marriage because they did not want the legal obligations imposed by that status. Some individuals have simply given no thought as to how their relationship would operate. Often the date when the cohabitation actually began is blurred because people “ease into” situations, spending more and more time together. Agreements between people verifying when their relationship began and how it will operate often do not exist.
[45] In Mother 1, Mr. Justice Myers referred to a list of 22 factors grouped into seven categories, from Maldowich v. Penttinen, (1980), 17 R.F.L. (2d) 376 (Ont. Dist. Ct.), that have frequently been cited in this and other courts for the purpose of determining whether a relationship was marriage-like, at para. 134 of Mother 1:
1. Shelter:
(a) Did the parties live under the same roof?
(b) What were the sleeping arrangements?
(c) Did anyone else occupy or share the available accommodation?
2. Sexual and Personal Behaviour:
(a) Did the parties have sexual relations? If not, why not?
(b) Did they maintain an attitude of fidelity to each other?
(c) What were their feelings toward each other?
(d) Did they communicate on a personal level?
(e) Did they eat their meals together?
(f) What, if anything, did they do to assist each other with problems or during illness?
(g) Did they buy gifts for each other on special occasions?
3. Services:
What was the conduct and habit of the parties in relation to:
(a) preparation of meals;
(b) washing and mending clothes;
(c) shopping;
(d) household maintenance; and
(e) any other domestic services?
4. Social:
(a) Did they participate together or separately in neighbourhood and community activities?
(b) What was the relationship and conduct of each of them toward members of their respective families and how did such families behave towards the parties?
5. Societal:
What was the attitude and conduct of the community toward each of them and as a couple?
6. Support (economic):
(a) What were the financial arrangements between the parties regarding the provision of or contribution toward the necessaries of life (food, clothing, shelter, recreation, etc.)?
(b) What were the arrangements concerning the acquisition and ownership of property?
(c) Was there any special financial arrangement between them which both agreed would be determinant of their overall relationship?
7. Children:
What was the attitude and conduct of the parties concerning children?
[46] In Austin v. Goerz, 2007 BCCA 586, the Court of Appeal cautioned against a “checklist approach”; rather, a court should "holistically" examine all the relevant factors. Cases like Molodowich provide helpful indicators of the sorts of behaviour that society associates with a marital relationship, the Court of Appeal said; however, “the presence or absence of any particular factor cannot be determinative of whether a relationship is marriage-like” (para. 58).
[47] In Weber v. Leclerc, 2015 BCCA 492, the Court of Appeal again affirmed that there is no checklist of characteristics that will be found in all marriages and then concluded with respect to evidence of intentions:
[23] The parties’ intentions – particularly the expectation that the relationship will be of lengthy, indeterminate duration – may be of importance in determining whether a relationship is “marriage-like”. While the court will consider the evidence expressly describing the parties’ intentions during the relationship, it will also test that evidence by considering whether the objective evidence is consonant with those intentions.
[24] The question of whether a relationship is “marriage-like” will also typically depend on more than just their intentions. Objective evidence of the parties’ lifestyle and interactions will also provide direct guidance on the question of whether the relationship was “marriage-like”.
[48] Significantly for this case, the courts have looked to mutual intent in order to find a marriage-like relationship. See, for example, L.E. v. D.J., 2011 BCSC 671 and Buell v. Unger, 2011 BCSC 35; Davey Estate v. Gruyaert, 2005 CarswellBC 3456 at 13 and 35.
[49] In Mother 1, Myers J. concluded his analysis of the law with the following learned comment:
[143] Having canvassed the law relating to the nature of a marriage-like relationship, I will digress to point out the problematic nature of the concept. It may be apparent from the above that determining whether a marriage-like relationship exists sometimes seems like sand running through one's fingers. Simply put, a marriage-like relationship is akin to a marriage without the formality of a marriage. But as the cases mentioned above have noted, people treat their marriages differently and have different conceptions of what marriage entails.
[50] In short, the determination of whether the parties in this case lived in a marriage-like relationship is a fact-specific inquiry that a trial judge would need to make on a “holistic” basis, having regard to all of the evidence. While the trial judge may consider the various factors listed in the authorities, those factors would not be treated as a checklist and no single factor or category of factors would be treated as being decisive.
E. Is There a Reasonable Claim of a Marriage-Like Relationship?
[51] In this case, many of the Molodowich factors are missing:
a) The parties never lived under the same roof. They never slept together. They were never in the same place at the same time during the relationship. The last time they saw each other in person was in November 2017, before the relationship began.
b) The parties never had consensual sex. They did not hug, kiss or hold hands. With the exception of the alleged sexual assault, they never touched one another physically.
c) The parties expressed care and affection for one another, but they rarely shared personal information or interest in their lives outside of their direct topic of communication. They did not write about their families, their friends, their religious beliefs or their work.
d) They expressed concern and support for one another when the other felt unwell or experienced health issues, but they did not provide any care or assistance during illness or other problems.
e) They did not assist one another with domestic chores.
f) They did not share their relationship with their peers or their community. There is no allegation, for example, that Mr. Dorje told his fellow monks or any of his followers about the relationship. There is no allegation that Ms. Han told her friends or any co-workers. Indeed, there is no allegation that anyone, with the exception of Ms. Han’s mother, knew about the relationship. Although Mr. Dorje gave Ms. Han’s mother a gift, he never met the mother and he never spoke to her.
g) They did not intend to have a child together. The child was conceived as a result of a sexual assault. While Mr. Dorje expressed interest in “meeting” the child, he never followed up. He currently has no relationship with the child. There is no allegation he has sought access or parenting arrangements.
[52] The only Molodowich factor of any real relevance in this case is economic support. Mr. Dorje provided the funds with which Ms. Han purchased a condominium. Mr. Dorje initially wrote that he wanted to buy a property with the money, but, he wrote, “It’s the same thing if you buy [it]”.
[53] Mr. Dorje also provided a significant amount of money for Ms. Han’s postpartum care and the child’s first year of life.
[54] This financial support may have been primarily for the benefit of the child. Even the condominium, Ms. Han wrote, was primarily for the benefit of the child.
[55] However, in my view, a trial judge may attach a broader significance to the financial support from Mr. Dorje than child support alone. A trial judge may find that the money Mr. Dorje provided to Ms. Han at her request was an expression of his commitment to her in circumstances in which he could not commit physically. The money and the gifts may be seen by the trial judge to have been a form of down payment by Mr. Dorje on a promise of continued emotional and financial support for Ms. Han, or, in Mr. Dorje’s own words, “Taking care of her and you are my duty for life” (emphasis added).
[56] On the other hand, I find it difficult to attach any particular significance to the fact that Mr. Dorje agreed to provide funds for Ms. Han to purchase a wedding ring. It appears to me that Ms. Han demanded that Mr. Dorje buy her a wedding ring, not that the ring had any mutual meaning to the parties as a marriage symbol. But it is relevant, in my view, that Mr. Dorje provided $20,000 USD to Ms. Han for something she wanted that was of no benefit to the child.
[57] Further, Ms. Han alleges that the parties intended to live together. At a minimum, a trial judge may find that the discussions about where Ms. Han and the child would live reflected a mutual intention of the parties to see one another and spend time together when they could.
[58] Mr. Dorje argues that an intention to live together at some point in the future is not sufficient to show that an existing relationship was marriage-like. He argues that the question of whether the relationship was marriage-like requires more than just intentions, citing Weber, supra.
[59] In my view, the documentary evidence referred to above provides some objective evidence in this case that the parties progressed beyond mere intentions. As stated, the parties appear to have expressed genuine care and affection for one another. They appear to have discussed marriage, trust, honesty, finances, mutual obligations and acquiring family property. These are not matters one would expect Mr. Dorje to discuss with a friend or a follower, or even with the mother of his child, without a marriage-like element of the relationship.
[60] A trial judge may find on the facts alleged by Ms. Han that the parties loved one another and would have lived together, but were unable to do so because of Mr. Dorje’s religious duties and nomadic lifestyle.
[61] The question I raised in the introduction to these reasons is whether a relationship that began on-line and never moved into the physical world can be marriage-like.
[62] Notably, the definition of a spouse in the Family Law Act does not require that the parties live together, only that they live with another person in a marriage-like relationship.
[63] In Connor Estate, 2017 BCSC 978, Mr. Justice Kent found that a couple that maintained two entirely separate households and never lived under the same roof formed a marriage-like relationship. (Connor Estate was decided under the intestacy provisions of the Wills, Estates and Succession Act, S.B.C. 2009, c. 13 ("WESA"), but courts have relied on cases decided under WESA and the FLA interchangeably for their definitions of a spouse.) Mr. Justice Kent found:
[50] The evidence is overwhelming and I find as a fact that Mr. Chambers and Ms. Connor loved and cared deeply about each other, and that they had a loving and intimate relationship for over 20 years that was far more than mere friendship or even so-called "friendship with benefits". I accept Mr. Chambers' evidence that he would have liked to share a home with Ms. Connor after the separation from his wife, but was unable to do so because of Ms. Connor's hoarding illness. The evidence amply supports, and I find as a fact, that Mr. Chambers and Ms. Connor loved each other, were faithful to each other, communicated with each other almost every day when they were not together, considered themselves to be (and presented themselves to be) "husband and wife" and were accepted by all who knew them as a couple.
[64] Connor Estate may be distinguishable from this case because Mr. Chambers and Ms. Connor were physically intimate for over 20 years, and presented themselves to the world as a married couple.
[65] Other decisions in which a marriage-like relationship has been found to exist despite the parties not living together have involved circumstances in which the couple lived under the same roof at previous points in the relationship, and the issue was whether they continued to be spouses after they took up separate residences: in Thompson v. Floyd, 2001 BCCA 78, the parties had lived together for a period of at least 11 years; in Roach v. Dutra, 2010 BCCA 264, the parties had lived together for approximately three years.
[66] However, as Mr. Justice Kent noted in Connor Estate:
[48] … [W]hile much guidance might be found in this case law, the simple fact is that no two cases are identical (and indeed they usually vary widely) and it is the assessment of evidence as a whole in this particular case which matters.
[67] Mr. Justice Kent concluded:
[53] Like human beings themselves, marriage-like relationships can come in many and various shapes. In this particular case, I have no doubt that such a relationship existed …
[68] As stated, Ms. Han’s claim is novel. It may even be weak. Almost all of the traditional factors are missing. The fact that Ms. Han and Mr. Dorje never lived under the same roof, never shared a bed and never even spent time together in person will militate against a finding they lived with one another in a marriage-like relationship. However, the traditional factors are not a mandatory check-list that confines the “elastic” concept of a marriage-like relationship. And if the COVID pandemic has taught us nothing else, it is that real relationships can form, blossom and end in virtual worlds.
[69] In my view, the merits of Ms. Han’s claim should be decided on the evidence. Subject to an overriding prejudice to Mr. Dorje, she should have leave to amend the notice of family claim. However, she should also provide meaningful particulars of the alleged marriage-like relationship.
F. Delay / Prejudice
[70] Ms. Han filed her notice of family claim on July 17, 2019. She brought this application to amend approximately one year and nine months after she filed the pleading, just over two months before the original trial date.
[71] Ms. Han’s delay was made all that more remarkable by her change in position from January 19, 2021, when she confirmed, through counsel, that she was not seeking spousal support in this case.
[72] Ms. Han gave notice of her intention to proceed with this application to Mr. Dorje on March 16, 2021. By the time the application was heard, the parties had conducted examinations for discovery without covering the issues that would arise from a claim of spousal support.
[73] Also, in April, Ms. Han produced additional documents, primarily text messages, that may be relevant to her claim of spousal support, but were undecipherable to counsel for Mr. Dorje, who does not read Mandarin.
[74] This application proceeded largely on documents selected and translated by counsel for Ms. Han. I was informed that Mandarin translations of the full materials would take 150 days.
[75] Understandably in the circumstances, Mr. Dorje argued that an amendment two months before trial would be neither just nor convenient. He argued that he would be prejudiced by an adjournment so as to allow Ms. Han to advance a late claim of spousal support.
[76] The circumstances changed on May 6, 2021, when Madam Justice Walkem adjourned the trial to July 2022 and reset it for 25 days. Madam Justice Walkem noted that most of the witnesses live internationally and require translators. She also noted that paternity may be in issue, and Mr. Dorje may amend his pleadings to raise that issue. It seems clear that, altogether apart from the potential spousal support claim, the parties were not ready to proceed to trial on June 7, 2021.
[77] In my view, any remaining prejudice to Mr. Dorje is outweighed by the importance of having all of the issues between the parties decided on their merits.
[78] Ms. Han’s delay and changes of position on spousal support may be a matter to de addressed in a future order of costs; but they are not grounds on which to deny her leave to amend the notice of family claim.
CONCLUSION
[79] Ms. Han is granted leave to amend her notice of family claim in the form attached as Appendix A to the notice of application to include a claim for spousal support.
[80] Within 21 days, or such other deadline as the parties may agree, Ms. Han must provide particulars of the marriage-like relationship alleged in the amended notice of family claim.
[81] Ms. Han is entitled to costs of this application in the cause of the spousal support claim.
“Master Elwood”
同時也有5部Youtube影片,追蹤數超過15萬的網紅ロイドごはん,也在其Youtube影片中提到,二郎系ラーメン、人気チェーン店へ!『ラーメン豚山平塚店』にお邪魔して、気になっていた「味噌山」を実食しました。「ラーメン豚山」は東京、神奈川、大阪に16店舗展開する二郎系のチェーン店です。食券機の説明が写真入りなので量や注文方法などが非常に分かりやすく案内されていたり、カジュアルな雰囲気で入りやすい...
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出門上班的你,請萬倍小心。想感謝/暗示老闆又有口難言,可以嘗試轉PO~ Na姊係大廳。啊,電梯。Do you still needa be out of home for work? #staysafe and be sure you take whatever precautions you can aight. ♥️ So some of you dm-ed me requesting me to post this up so you’re able to repost, here you go, swipe. (“this”: one of my random igstories last night.)
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dear all bosses, board of directors,
managers, superiors, lengchai lenglui:
kepo-ly on behalf of your staffs and members and their families, I’d love to extend my utmost gratitude and appreciation to you, of taking all precautions, special arrangements and considerations seriously, which includes to allow your employees to work from home or slight much flexibly, that says to be able to reduce risk exposed as possible and as well to feed them much sense of security where their lives are respectfully been taken care of. You da best! Your employees love you! Heng ahh! Huatt ahh!
and if you’re forced to have chopped and signed for some other solutions but not the workfromhome command, really? really cannot mer? how much contrast would the differences be? okay, then horr just try your best lah k. Lives held on your hands, and we trust you for your best decision made. Heng ahh! Huatt ahh!
and for those who doesn’t/haven’t put much into consideration, I wish you a good sleep tonight, and please do think about this tomorrow k. and tomorrow tomorrow also can think sia. Lol!
thank you, thank you, thankyou. also for whoever and to wherever we needa work still outhere, let’s just stay safe together at our very best.
sangyeehenglong.
may we and our brands/businesses stay alive.
- Chryss
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TOP5 MONTHLY FAVORITES APR 2021
1. GUBONCHO SNAIL EE CREAM SPF38 PA++ 50g
💡DETAILS: Snail Essential Essence is known as “EE” Cream, infused with rich moisturizing essence, sheer enough texture leaves skin a more nourished and dewy appearance. The superior skin protection function enables the skin from isolating the harmful substance while strengthening skin’s protective barrier.
🔴MY REVIEW: I’m absolutely in love with this snail EE cream. My face looks flawless when I put it on. I love that it goes on smoothly without gathering in fine lines around the eyes. It definitely smooths out the appearance of blotchy or uneven skin tones. The color is perfect and it’s not heavy or noticeable. It gives me a really smooth natural look. Overall, it seems to last all day, has great coverage and gives my face a nice brightness. Definitely recommend.
2. TOMFORD BROW SCULPTOR WITH REFILL #04 ESPRESSO
💡DETAILS: To TomFord, the eyebrows are one of the most important elements of your face architecture. A perfectly groomed and shaped brow is the most powerful non-invasive way to define and enhance your features. The unique calligraphy tip allows a tailor-made stroke, from thin to wide. Remove the opposite-end cap to uncover the grooming brush, twist the cap counterclockwise to reveal the sharpener. Includes one refill. To refill, pull out empty cartridge and insert replacement until it clicks.
🔴MY REVIEW: This’s my first time using #04 ESPRESSO color and so far I’m in love. Perfect for any shade of brows. It glides on easily, lasts all day and into the night without having to touch it up and doesn’t smudge either which is great. Highly recommend.
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🔴MY REVIEW: Overall I really like this mascara. It applies evenly, stays on all day and is easy to remove without causing eyelash loss. This mascara is great for giving my lashes volume while still looking natural. No clumping and makes my lashes look amazing. Definitely recommend.
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🔴MY REVIEW: The bristles are so perfect to draw thin lines. The eyeliner has a glossy effect which enhance and highlight my eyes. Its super pigmented and it’s waterproof but it’s quite easy to clean as well. The tip is capable of making thin to thick lines and so much more. Overall, I have no complaints.
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🔴MY REVIEW: My all time favorite eyeliner. I love the true black color, it fits well in my hand, the black color is rich and opaque, it glides on so smoothly and the top is flexible enough to create wings effortless and it holds well, so I have great stability. Well, I have really tears eyes and this eyeliner is absolutely a lifesaver. No more smudging all over my face. This Japanese brand is high quality, easy to remove and it lasts. Highly recommend. Truly a legend amongst the global makeup community.
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二郎系ラーメン、人気チェーン店へ!『ラーメン豚山平塚店』にお邪魔して、気になっていた「味噌山」を実食しました。「ラーメン豚山」は東京、神奈川、大阪に16店舗展開する二郎系のチェーン店です。食券機の説明が写真入りなので量や注文方法などが非常に分かりやすく案内されていたり、カジュアルな雰囲気で入りやすい工夫がされています。小ラーメンで麺量250gですが、ボリュームに不安がある方は麺量125gのミニラーメンもあるので安心して入れますね。ラーメン二郎、二郎系に興味があるけれど「コール」のハードルが高いなあ…そんな方はぜひ一度伺ってみてください。それではご覧ください。
*感染対策を徹底して撮影を行っています。
*撮影に際しては、お店の方や周りのお客様に充分配慮して撮影をおこなっています。
Jiro ramen, to popular chain stores! I visited "Ramen Butayama Hiratsuka" and ate "Misoyama" that I was interested in. "Ramen Butayama" is a Jiro chain store with 16 stores in Tokyo, Kanagawa, and Osaka. Since the explanation of the ticket machine is included in the photo, the quantity and ordering method are explained in a very easy-to-understand manner, and it is devised to make it easy to enter in a casual atmosphere. The amount of noodles is 250g for small ramen, but if you are worried about the volume, there is also a mini ramen with 125g of noodles, so you can put it in with confidence. I'm interested in Ramen Jiro and Jiro, but the hurdles for "calling" are high ... If you're like that, please come visit us. Please have a look.
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* At the time of shooting, we are taking into consideration the shop and customers around you.
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78才おじいちゃん屋台ラーメンの朝『幸っちゃん』夜明けの銀座 【飯テロ】Old Style Ramen yatai Japanese Street Food
https://youtu.be/YHiWYvhxUI4
【家系ラーメン特集!】
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神回【ラーメン二郎の貴重映像】全増しが出来るまで一部始終を大公開!【ラーメン二郎 ひばりヶ丘店】ramen
https://youtu.be/mBFcdMHyaxA
巨大塊肉に挑戦!【いきなりステーキ】2人で1.5キロの結果は?【飯テロ】
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神技!いつもびっくりするよ!【がんちゃん】お好み焼きの名店に感動!【飯テロ】× フラメンコロイド 広島県
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★ロイドwalker《人生をドラマチックに彩る旅とグルメと温泉図鑑》
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https://pordiotama3.xsrv.jp
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東京都品川区北品川にある『ラーメン二郎品川店』にお邪魔しました。女性の方やたくさん召し上がれない方のために今回は麺を少なめにお願いし、コールも野菜とニンニクのみでお願いしてみました。「ラーメン二郎」の《コール》とは、ラーメンの上に載せるものをどうしてもらいたいか店員の方に伝えるシステムのことです。その盛りやルールは店舗ごとに違うとされていますので、今回の注文でもどのくらいのボリュームのラーメンが来るのか参考にして頂ければと思います。それでは早速動画、スタートです!
*感染対策を徹底して撮影を行っています。
*撮影に際しては、お店の方や周りのお客様に充分配慮して撮影をおこなっています。
I visited "Ramen Jiro Shinagawa store" in Kitashinagawa, Shinagawa-ku, Tokyo. For women and those who can't eat a lot, I asked for less noodles this time, and I asked for call only with vegetables and garlic. "Call" of "Ramen Jiro" is a system that tells the clerk what you want to put on the ramen. It is said that the serving and rules are different for each store, so I hope you can refer to how much volume of ramen will come with this order. Let's start the video!
* We take thorough measures against infection.
* When shooting, we take the shop and the customers around us into consideration.
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78才おじいちゃん屋台ラーメンの朝『幸っちゃん』夜明けの銀座【飯テロ】Old Style Ramen Stall Yatai Japanese Street Food
https://youtu.be/YHiWYvhxUI4
神回【ラーメン二郎の貴重映像】全増しが出来るまで一部始終を大公開!【ラーメン二郎 ひばりヶ丘店】ramen
https://youtu.be/mBFcdMHyaxA
【大食い】ラーメン二郎のルールを完全攻略!全マシマシを完飲完食しながら解説!【ラーメン二郎目黒店】飯テロ ramen
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https://ramenjapan.net/
★メロンシート《フラメンコギターの世界一の旅》
https://pordiotama3.xsrv.jp
★フラメンコロイド 《フラメンコロイドの神話と伝説》
https://flamenkoroid.net
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[ 10年感情的道别 | Goodbye My 10 Years Relationship ]
10年真的不短,很遗憾无法一起走到最后。
求婚了,却早已错过应该发生的时间点。
面对瓶颈考验的爱情在挽救期中感性被理性打败了,写下句号。
我们分了。我们都很不舍,但确实分了。
很抱歉,令所有期待的家人朋友失望了。
这10年里她对我很好,无可挑剔;而我做不好的我全都承认,是我的理所当然及舒适心态导致了今天的所有,我诚心道歉。
对于一直关心我俩的亲朋好友,感恩过去所有的祝福,也谢谢这些年的见证。
对于曾煽动我们分手的朋友们,抱歉拖了那么久,往后不需煽动了。
我特别要感谢彼此的家人、爱我们的家人们。这些年让大家心中累计的担忧及不满实在不应该,让大家操心了,诚恳地鞠躬致歉。谢谢这些年的爱与包容,打从心里的感恩,谢谢。
在这里,至这位10年前为我化妆而邂逅的,10年来风雨不改以我为先的,让我在爱情里一夜长大的她 – Mey ,谢谢你一切付出、包容、体谅及信任,完整了我生活许多的缺失区块,也为我生命彩出了鲜艳的色彩。谢谢你总无条件地支持我每个决定,即使以世界为敌你还是站在我身旁。谢谢你无限的精神鼓励,让我即使在烂透的状态下也努力撑过去,因为我知道至少还有你这位铁粉的守候。万语千言在心中说不尽,我想你知道的。谢谢你,真心真心地谢谢你。正如我十年前为你写的歌 – “美丽意外“里的歌词,至今,我仍觉得遇见你是个美丽的意外,真的。
容我忍泪再次公开说,Mey, 我爱你。
面对10年感情的结束,难过是肯定的。
即使平时爱笑的我们,也为这次的句号流了好多公升的泪。但我们答应彼此会带着所有开心的记忆把对方放在心中一个特别的位置。换了身份,没了昵称,不管未来缘分如何,我们都会是彼此继续珍惜的那位。
最后,公开这首十年前写给她的歌,也是十年后我重新录制十周年版本向她求婚的作品。MV里记录了过去十年的精选画面,婚没求得成,但我们都认为这首歌是纪念这10年的最初;10年的最终,最佳的礼物,也要谢谢歌曲的幕后团队 :佳旺 (金马旺) 的 编曲 / 制作 / 录音 /配唱 ,沁嘉 的 合音编写 / 合音 , 文浩 的混音。他们是少数知道我求婚计划也期待着好消息的朋友。。。可惜让你们失望了,谢谢你们的一切付出与耐心,我都真心感激。
爱情其实只有你和我,但考虑到彼此有太多共同朋友,为了避免揣测还是决定做个交代。谢谢大家这十年的祝福。当你看到这贴文时我俩的脸书感情状态应该已经更新。
是很意外,连我俩都为这样的今天感到意外,如果是注定意外,至少让它是个 [美丽意外],好吗?
爱要及时,记得好好珍惜依然在你身边的那位,衷心祝福大家。
缘起缘灭感恩一切,合十。
10 years, regret that we couldn’t make it till the end.
I proposed, but had missed the right timing to do it right.
After went through the consideration period, rational beat sentimental, it ended.
Yes, we broke up. It’s really hard to accept, but yes, we broke up.
Truly regret to all friends and families’ members who had expectation on us.For the past 10 years, she’s perfect. For all the wrong which I made, I’ll take all the blame. I’m truly sorry, for the relationship which I care so much.
To all friends who care about both of us throughout these 10 years, thanks for witnessing us.
To those who didn’t expect good ending, sorry for the long waiting.
I would like to specially thank both of our family’s members. I can understand all the worries and dissatisfactions throughout the years. Really shouldn’t allow those to happen. I Sincerely apologize. Sorry.
Hereby, I would like to thank her, the girl I crushed into when she did make up for me 10 years ago, the girl who always put me as priority for the past 10 years, the girl who used 10 years’ time to grew me up in the world of love – Mey , Thank you for everything, you completed a lot of my missing part in life and had brighten up my days with different colours. Thanks for always standing by my side although when the world disagree on me. Thanks for your bottomless mental support which let me went through lots of down time as I always know there’ll at least be a super fans forever, it’s you. As of now, I still feel like knowing you is 1 of the most beautiful accident in life, and you able to calmed me down whenever and wherever you were around. It’s more than words, I’m sure you knew it, thank you so much, sincerely.
Allow me to hold my tears and say this 1 more time openly, Mey, I love you, as always.
10 years long run coming to an end, for sure it’s really hurt and sad.
But we’ll promise to bring along all happy memories and place each other at a special point in our heart. You will always be a person that I care about.
Lastly, sharing out the song I wrote for her 10 years ago, and it’s being re-produced again into a 10th year anniversary version for my proposal purpose. The MV are made by all key moments we been through together. Although my proposal failed, but we do think it’s a best way to conclude and remember those 10 years, from the beginning to the end. Thanks to the song production team : Keon Chia (Golden Horse Award Winner 2020) for Music Arrangement, Produce, Recording, Vocal Guide. Thanks to Isabell Jia Jia for the background Vocal & Background Vocal Arrangement. Thanks to Haw Vee for the Mixing. They were the few who knew my proposal plan and awaiting the good news …. However, sorry to let you all down. Thanks to all the effort, it’s my honor to have you guys in this important journey and I deeply appreciate it in heart.
Love actually is just you & me, but we decided to explain about this to avoid any assumptions as we got too many mutual friends. Thanks to all lovely wishes for the past 10 years. When you see this post, I believe our relationship status on FB had changed.
Yes it’s really an accident to our relationship, even to ourselves. If it’s meant to be an accident, at least let it be a “Beautiful Accident”.
Always express your LOVE before too late and appreciate he/her who still together with you. Best wishes to everyone.
With Love, Sorry and Thanks.
#美丽意外 #BeautifulAccident #ThanksForEverything #LOVE
Music Production Team
美丽意外 (2020十周年版)
OP :Musictoxin Productions
SP: Universal Music Publishing Sdn. Bhd.
词Lyrics : Dickson蔡迪伸
曲Composer : Dickson蔡迪伸
编Arranged by : Keon Chia谢佳旺 @Burger Music Studio
制作Produced by : Keon Chia谢佳旺 / Dickson蔡迪伸
混音 Mixed by : Haw Vee魏文浩 @musicHaws Production
和音编写Back up vocal arranged by : Isabell潘沁珈
和音Back up vocal by : Isabell潘沁珈
录音室Recording Studio : Tutti Studio
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